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    • And Hook and Rumple's surnames are respectively Rogers and Crocker 

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    • Wait, where did we get Rumple's cursed last name is Crocker? I haven't seen that anywhere yet.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Wait, where did we get Rumple's cursed last name is Crocker? I haven't seen that anywhere yet.

      Seems unconfirmed form what I've read.

      Edit: Guess there was a set report.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Wait, where did we get Rumple's cursed last name is Crocker? I haven't seen that anywhere yet.

      Set report.

      Reference to two things: the Crocodile from Peter Pan, and Detective Bobby Crocker from Kojak.

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Wait, where did we get Rumple's cursed last name is Crocker? I haven't seen that anywhere yet.
      Set report.

      Reference to two things: the Crocodile from Peter Pan, and Detective Bobby Crocker from Kojak.

      Okay, thanks, so we have partial names for our "newly cursed trio":

      Regina - Roni the bartender

      Hook - Officer Rogers

      Rumple - Detective Crocker

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    • And apparently, I can't 100% confirm it, but Tiana would still be Tiana.

      Other names confirmed:

      Henry - Henry

      Lucy - Lucy

      ...

      =P

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      And apparently, I can't 100% confirm it, but Tiana would still be Tiana.

      Other names confirmed:

      Henry - Henry

      Lucy - Lucy

      ...

      =P

      Right, and Lady Tremaine is Victoria and Cinderella is Jacinda. Drizella and Alice probably have cursed names, but we don't know those yet (although if Tiana keeps her name, maybe Alice does to; Drizella is going to be a hard sell in modern day Seattle though XD).

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    • Alice's cursed name might be "Carol" or "Carol Lewis", in reference to Lewis Caroll?

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    • My guesses for Drizzy:

      • Elleanor
      • Zelda
      • Drusilla (Dru?)
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    • Well, link: https://twitter.com/AdamHorowitzLA/status/895345141589790720

      "Pauly" and "Crocker" are confirmed to not be any character in season 7 or in the show.

      I knew it because they sound absolutely asinine. XD

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    • Update:

      Cinderella: Jacinda, police officer

      Lady Tremaine: Victoria, urban developer

      Drizella: ??????

      Alice: ?????

      ????? : Tiana, waitress

      Regina Mills: Roni, bartender

      Killian Jones: ????? Rogers, police officer

      Rumplestilskin: ??????, undercover detective

      Henry Mills: Henry Mills

      Lucy Mills: Lucy ?????

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Well, link: https://twitter.com/AdamHorowitzLA/status/895345141589790720

      "Pauly" and "Crocker" are confirmed to not be any character in season 7 or in the show.

      I knew it because they sound absolutely asinine. XD

      Good to know. It will be fun to find out what there fake names actually are.

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      "Pauly" and "Crocker" are confirmed to not be any character in season 7 or in the show.

      I knew it because they sound absolutely asinine. XD

      Thank goodness, Hook's false name is not going to be "Pauly Rogers"!

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    • IGN: Are these the same versions of Regina and Hook that we know from our story book, or are they from other story books?

      Kitsis: But what I can say is, unlike the original show, Regina and Hook will now have cursed Seattle personas. Regina’s is named Roni and Hook is Roger. http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/08/12/once-upon-a-time-showrunners-answer-15-burning-season-7-fan-questions

      So his name is.....Roger Rogers.......? Or did they misspeak...? 

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      IGN: Are these the same versions of Regina and Hook that we know from our story book, or are they from other story books?Kitsis: But what I can say is, unlike the original show, Regina and Hook will now have cursed Seattle personas. Regina’s is named Roni and Hook is Roger.

      http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/08/12/once-upon-a-time-showrunners-answer-15-burning-season-7-fan-questions

      So his name is.....Roger Rogers.......? Or did they misspeak...? 

      Oh, gosh, I would prefer Pauly. Please be a misspeak.

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      IGN: Are these the same versions of Regina and Hook that we know from our story book, or are they from other story books?

      Kitsis: But what I can say is, unlike the original show, Regina and Hook will now have cursed Seattle personas. Regina’s is named Roni and Hook is Roger. http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/08/12/once-upon-a-time-showrunners-answer-15-burning-season-7-fan-questions

      So his name is.....Roger Rogers.......? Or did they misspeak...? 

      If Hook's cursed name is Roger Rogers, I'm going to die from laughter. XD

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    • We now know Drizella's cursed name is Ivy. https://www.instagram.com/p/BYO17F_h1hs/

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    • According to Kat, Alice's cursed name is Tilly. 
      http://katmtan.tumblr.com/post/164715928872/do-you-know-the-cursed-names-of-tiana-and-alice

      That just leaves Tiana, I believe. And Mekia's name on the call sheet is actually Tiana, while people like Gabrielle and Dania have their characters' cursed names listed instead. I still wonder if she's a special case.

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      According to Kat, Alice's cursed name is Tilly. 
      http://katmtan.tumblr.com/post/164715928872/do-you-know-the-cursed-names-of-tiana-and-alice

      That just leaves Tiana, I believe. And Mekia's name on the call sheet is actually Tiana, while people like Gabrielle and Dania have their characters' cursed names listed instead. I still wonder if she's a special case.

      Shame it's not Carol. That would've been clever. Anyone know why it might be Tilly? It's short for Matilda which means "strength in battle", so that could refer to a Warrior!Alice again.

      I hope it's not just Tiana. It seems like a weird exception for her to be the only person without a cursed name (and I have a hard time seeing it being a Nurse Ratched situation). The only characters like that with the original Dark Curse were Regina and David, the latter having gone by James and the former being the caster of the... oh. Surely that's not the case?

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      JennaMae wrote:
      According to Kat, Alice's cursed name is Tilly. 
      http://katmtan.tumblr.com/post/164715928872/do-you-know-the-cursed-names-of-tiana-and-aliceThat just leaves Tiana, I believe. And Mekia's name on the call sheet is actually Tiana, while people like Gabrielle and Dania have their characters' cursed names listed instead. I still wonder if she's a special case.
      Shame it's not Carol. That would've been clever. Anyone know why it might be Tilly? It's short for Matilda which means "strength in battle", so that could refer to a Warrior!Alice again.

      I hope it's not just Tiana. It seems like a weird exception for her to be the only person without a cursed name (and I have a hard time seeing it being a Nurse Ratched situation). The only characters like that with the original Dark Curse were Regina and David, the latter having gone by James and the former being the caster of the... oh. Surely that's not the case?

      Tiana is a "pure Disney character" so it could be a reason as why she seems to keep her real name.

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    • And there is a "Tillie" in Alice in Wonderland.

      • The name "Tilly" is a reference to Tillie, one of the three sisters in the story that the Dormouse tells Alice at the Mad Tea Party in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Tillie, Elsie and Lacie live at the bottom of the Treacle Well.
        • The names of the three sisters refer to the names of Alice Liddell and her sisters. Tillie is the diminutive form of "Matilda", a name given to Edith Liddell by her sisters.
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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      JennaMae wrote:
      According to Kat, Alice's cursed name is Tilly. 
      http://katmtan.tumblr.com/post/164715928872/do-you-know-the-cursed-names-of-tiana-and-aliceThat just leaves Tiana, I believe. And Mekia's name on the call sheet is actually Tiana, while people like Gabrielle and Dania have their characters' cursed names listed instead. I still wonder if she's a special case.
      Shame it's not Carol. That would've been clever. Anyone know why it might be Tilly? It's short for Matilda which means "strength in battle", so that could refer to a Warrior!Alice again.

      I hope it's not just Tiana. It seems like a weird exception for her to be the only person without a cursed name (and I have a hard time seeing it being a Nurse Ratched situation). The only characters like that with the original Dark Curse were Regina and David, the latter having gone by James and the former being the caster of the... oh. Surely that's not the case?

      Tiana is a "pure Disney character" so it could be a reason as why she seems to keep her real name.

      We don't really know that Tiana is a "pure Disney character"/Disney insert. All we know is that she looks like and is named after the Disney version and that's true for Ariel, too, even though her plot is much different than Disney's. (Honestly, Ariel looks more like the Disney version than Elsa does.) And that Mekia calls her a Disney princess but people say that about Once's Snow White, Belle, etc. all the time even though only Elsa, Anna, and Merida are actually direct Disney inserts with a backstory stated to be the movie in its unedited form (more-or-less).

      Good catch on the Tillie/Tilly thing, though.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Lady Junky wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      JennaMae wrote:
      According to Kat, Alice's cursed name is Tilly. 
      http://katmtan.tumblr.com/post/164715928872/do-you-know-the-cursed-names-of-tiana-and-aliceThat just leaves Tiana, I believe. And Mekia's name on the call sheet is actually Tiana, while people like Gabrielle and Dania have their characters' cursed names listed instead. I still wonder if she's a special case.
      Shame it's not Carol. That would've been clever. Anyone know why it might be Tilly? It's short for Matilda which means "strength in battle", so that could refer to a Warrior!Alice again.

      I hope it's not just Tiana. It seems like a weird exception for her to be the only person without a cursed name (and I have a hard time seeing it being a Nurse Ratched situation). The only characters like that with the original Dark Curse were Regina and David, the latter having gone by James and the former being the caster of the... oh. Surely that's not the case?

      Tiana is a "pure Disney character" so it could be a reason as why she seems to keep her real name.
      We don't really know that Tiana is a "pure Disney character"/Disney insert. All we know is that she looks like and is named after the Disney version and that's true for Ariel, too, even though her plot is much different than Disney's. (Honestly, Ariel looks more like the Disney version than Elsa does.) And that Mekia calls her a Disney princess but people say that about Once's Snow White, Belle, etc. all the time even though only Elsa, Anna, and Merida are actually direct Disney inserts with a backstory stated to be the movie in its unedited form (more-or-less).

      Good catch on the Tillie/Tilly thing, though.


      What I mean by "pure Disney character" is that a character that Disney took directly from a story like Belle or Ariel. The story and the character is one of their creations :)

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      JennaMae wrote:
      According to Kat, Alice's cursed name is Tilly. 
      http://katmtan.tumblr.com/post/164715928872/do-you-know-the-cursed-names-of-tiana-and-aliceThat just leaves Tiana, I believe. And Mekia's name on the call sheet is actually Tiana, while people like Gabrielle and Dania have their characters' cursed names listed instead. I still wonder if she's a special case.
      Shame it's not Carol. That would've been clever. Anyone know why it might be Tilly? It's short for Matilda which means "strength in battle", so that could refer to a Warrior!Alice again.

      I hope it's not just Tiana. It seems like a weird exception for her to be the only person without a cursed name (and I have a hard time seeing it being a Nurse Ratched situation). The only characters like that with the original Dark Curse were Regina and David, the latter having gone by James and the former being the caster of the... oh. Surely that's not the case?

      You never know with this show. Tiana very well could have cast a curse. Alternativly, Tiana is her cursed name, and something else is her EF name. It would fit as Disney's Princess and the Frog is set in a 1920's America, and so is more similar to Hyperion Heights than the EF is going to be.

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      And there is a "Tillie" in Alice in Wonderland.
      • The name "Tilly" is a reference to Tillie, one of the three sisters in the story that the Dormouse tells Alice at the Mad Tea Party in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Tillie, Elsie and Lacie live at the bottom of the Treacle Well.
        • The names of the three sisters refer to the names of Alice Liddell and her sisters. Tillie is the diminutive form of "Matilda", a name given to Edith Liddell by her sisters.

      That's clever. Good find.

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    • This is something ive always wondered. What if Zelena and Robin Hood were under the first dar curse how do you guys think they would be? Name? Ect?

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    • Blacksiren1090 wrote:
      This is something ive always wondered. What if Zelena and Robin Hood were under the first dar curse how do you guys think they would be? Name? Ect?

      That's irrelevant to the topic of this thread.

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    • Lady Junky wrote: And there is a "Tillie" in Alice in Wonderland.

      • The name "Tilly" is a reference to Tillie, one of the three sisters in the story that the Dormouse tells Alice at the Mad Tea Party in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Tillie, Elsie and Lacie live at the bottom of the Treacle Well.
        • The names of the three sisters refer to the names of Alice Liddell and her sisters. Tillie is the diminutive form of "Matilda", a name given to Edith Liddell by her sisters.

      This is probably the most clever name they've come up with so far.

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    • TheRose123 wrote:

      Lady Junky wrote: And there is a "Tillie" in Alice in Wonderland.

      • The name "Tilly" is a reference to Tillie, one of the three sisters in the story that the Dormouse tells Alice at the Mad Tea Party in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Tillie, Elsie and Lacie live at the bottom of the Treacle Well.
        • The names of the three sisters refer to the names of Alice Liddell and her sisters. Tillie is the diminutive form of "Matilda", a name given to Edith Liddell by her sisters.

      This is probably the most clever name they've come up with so far.

      What??? Are you saying "Rogers" isn't absolutely brilliant???

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      TheRose123 wrote:

      Lady Junky wrote: And there is a "Tillie" in Alice in Wonderland.

      • The name "Tilly" is a reference to Tillie, one of the three sisters in the story that the Dormouse tells Alice at the Mad Tea Party in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Tillie, Elsie and Lacie live at the bottom of the Treacle Well.
        • The names of the three sisters refer to the names of Alice Liddell and her sisters. Tillie is the diminutive form of "Matilda", a name given to Edith Liddell by her sisters.
      This is probably the most clever name they've come up with so far.
      What??? Are you saying "Rogers" isn't absolutely brilliant???

      Yeah, and naming the guy who can weave gold straw "Weaver" is a stroke of genius.

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    • TheRose123 wrote:

      Lady Junky wrote: And there is a "Tillie" in Alice in Wonderland.

      • The name "Tilly" is a reference to Tillie, one of the three sisters in the story that the Dormouse tells Alice at the Mad Tea Party in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Tillie, Elsie and Lacie live at the bottom of the Treacle Well.
        • The names of the three sisters refer to the names of Alice Liddell and her sisters. Tillie is the diminutive form of "Matilda", a name given to Edith Liddell by her sisters.

      This is probably the most clever name they've come up with so far.

      It's good, but I personally think Carol would have been better.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:

      TheRose123 wrote:

      Lady Junky wrote: And there is a "Tillie" in Alice in Wonderland.

      • The name "Tilly" is a reference to Tillie, one of the three sisters in the story that the Dormouse tells Alice at the Mad Tea Party in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Tillie, Elsie and Lacie live at the bottom of the Treacle Well.
        • The names of the three sisters refer to the names of Alice Liddell and her sisters. Tillie is the diminutive form of "Matilda", a name given to Edith Liddell by her sisters.

      This is probably the most clever name they've come up with so far.

      It's good, but I personally think Carol would have been better.

      I don't understand the significance of the name Carol?

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    • WinterWoodsGal wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote:


      TheRose123 wrote:

      Lady Junky wrote: And there is a "Tillie" in Alice in Wonderland.

      • The name "Tilly" is a reference to Tillie, one of the three sisters in the story that the Dormouse tells Alice at the Mad Tea Party in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Tillie, Elsie and Lacie live at the bottom of the Treacle Well.
        • The names of the three sisters refer to the names of Alice Liddell and her sisters. Tillie is the diminutive form of "Matilda", a name given to Edith Liddell by her sisters.
      This is probably the most clever name they've come up with so far.
      It's good, but I personally think Carol would have been better.
      I don't understand the significance of the name Carol?

      Lewis Carroll wrote Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Change "Carrol" to "Carol".

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    • I don't know how I didn't get that. Thank you, Calibaz.

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    • Tiana's cursed name is Sabine and Mekia is now a series regular.

      http://ew.com/tv/2017/08/31/spoiler-room-scoop-on-once-upon-a-time-supergirl-teen-wolf/

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    • All I can think is the Rape of the Sabine Women (Sorry, had an Ancient Rome class).

      Mekia is a series regular....I'm actually a little surprised, but hey, if the seasons continue, we'll actually have Henry, Henry's wife, Henry's daughter, Henry's wife's friend, Henry's mom, Henry's stepdad, Henry's wife's stepmom, and Henry's grandad.

      A little better than the moms, grandmoms, and grandads of yesteryear.

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    • It's a French name that's also the name of a river in Louisiana, so seems fitting for a curse name.

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      It's a French name that's also the name of a river in Louisiana, so seems fitting for a curse name.

      Really? My research came up with Italian.

      Still, I'd say the river is likely the source. Looks like Tilly wins for Most Creative Name.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      JennaMae wrote:
      It's a French name that's also the name of a river in Louisiana, so seems fitting for a curse name.
      Really? My research came up with Italian.

      It is because Sabine is the French, German and Danish form of Sabina, which is Italian :)

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    • Finally found the meaning behind Ivy's name!

      The name "Ivy" is a reference to the color ivy green. In Disney's Cinderella, Ivy's original counterpart, Drizella, always wears clothes in the shade of green.

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Finally found the meaning behind Ivy's name!

      The name "Ivy" is a reference to the color ivy green. In Disney's Cinderella, Ivy's original counterpart, Drizella, always wears clothes in the shade of green.

      Lol, I thought that was the only thing that made sense. Unless, she suddenly became poisonous. XD

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    • So, we need Jacinda, Victoria and Weaver :)

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      So, we need Jacinda, Victoria and Weaver :)

      Weaver is obvious. He weaves straw into gold.

      Victoria means victorious (semi-obviously), so that could tie into Tremaine's attempts to separate everyone and make them suffer via the curse. It also makes me think of Queen Victoria which, in turn, makes me think of Tremaine trying to get her daughters to marry the prince so they can be rich.

      Jacinda... has the sound "cind" in it? I don't know.

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    • Jacinda is pretty much (Spanish?)  Hyacinth, which are the blue flowers that she is seen with in EF2.

      Weaver is as DNK says. Spinner would have been awkward.

      DNK is likely right with Victoria/Tremaine, but the last name will probably add something to the character too.

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    • Lady Junky wrote: Finally found the meaning behind Ivy's name!

      The name "Ivy" is a reference to the color ivy green. In Disney's Cinderella, Ivy's original counterpart, Drizella, always wears clothes in the shade of green.

      Plus they said she is super wicked, wears green, is called like a shade of green, she's totally the new Zelena, a lesbian Zelena probably.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:

      Lady Junky wrote: Finally found the meaning behind Ivy's name!

      The name "Ivy" is a reference to the color ivy green. In Disney's Cinderella, Ivy's original counterpart, Drizella, always wears clothes in the shade of green.

      Plus they said she is super wicked, wears green, is called like a shade of green, she's totally the new Zelena, a lesbian Zelena probably.

      Please stop. There is no new Zelena. There is no new anything. The closest thing there is anything "new" is Snowing and even that is just the fact that it's a healthy romantic relationship. These are unique characters. I'm tired of having this same argument when we haven't even seen them yet.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Chameleon-Guy wrote:

      Lady Junky wrote: Finally found the meaning behind Ivy's name!

      The name "Ivy" is a reference to the color ivy green. In Disney's Cinderella, Ivy's original counterpart, Drizella, always wears clothes in the shade of green.

      Plus they said she is super wicked, wears green, is called like a shade of green, she's totally the new Zelena, a lesbian Zelena probably.
      Please stop. There is no new Zelena. There is no new anything. The closest thing there is anything "new" is Snowing and even that is just the fact that it's a healthy romantic relationship. These are unique characters. I'm tired of having this same argument when we haven't even seen them yet.

      I was joking by the way.

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    • And it is now confirmed! Victoria's last name is Belfrey!

      So, unless a twist, we should have Ivy Belfrey.

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    • Yeah, I wonder why they don't fill in the others. Like:

      Is Lana also going to play EQ?

      Why not fill-in Bobby's HH name?

      And why does Tremaine get the only last name (besides Henry?)

      Guess I'd have to wait for a press release, lol.

      Belfrey is similar to belfry which is the structure that hosts the bell in a bell tower.

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    • Wonder why they didn't say Weavers for Bobby... perhaps they still want to keep it a secret? (even though we all know it lol)

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    • AlbOuat wrote:
      Wonder why they didn't say Weavers for Bobby... perhaps they still want to keep it a secret? (even though we all know it lol)

      Unless Mr. Gold has his memories, but I doubt they would spoil that (which wouldn't be weird, I guess).

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    • Lady Junky wrote: And it is now confirmed! Victoria's last name is Belfrey!

      So, unless a twist, we should have Ivy Belfrey.

      A belfry is a clock-tower.

      Also, there is a phrase "bats in the belfry" that is used to describe someone as being insane.

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      So, we need Jacinda, Victoria and Weaver :)

      Dat and Esk explained these names perfectly. And TheRose explained Victoria's last name perfectly. We should be adding all this to trivia, I hope.

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    • Ton of new info, and figuring out of names and such today. Yay! Getting super pumped for the new season.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Chameleon-Guy wrote:

      Lady Junky wrote: Finally found the meaning behind Ivy's name!

      The name "Ivy" is a reference to the color ivy green. In Disney's Cinderella, Ivy's original counterpart, Drizella, always wears clothes in the shade of green.

      Plus they said she is super wicked, wears green, is called like a shade of green, she's totally the new Zelena, a lesbian Zelena probably.
      Please stop. There is no new Zelena. There is no new anything. The closest thing there is anything "new" is Snowing and even that is just the fact that it's a healthy romantic relationship. These are unique characters. I'm tired of having this same argument when we haven't even seen them yet.
      I was joking by the way.

      I kind of figured but I decided to put all my feelings into it uncensored anyway just in case someone decided to take you seriously and actually make it into a legitimate complaint. Sorry I kinda snapped at you though :P

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    • I'm surprised they didn't add any Disney princesses to the description, like Cinderella and Tiana who are regulars. That description is old.

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    • Do you guys think Alice and Drizella could be promoted to regulars in the future?

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    • DuduVedana wrote:
      Do you guys think Alice and Drizella could be promoted to regulars in the future?


      Nope. Impossible. Too late for that.

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    • I mean, not even for the second half or Season 8?

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    • DuduVedana wrote:
      I mean, not even for the second half or Season 8?

      If there is another season, that's always a possibility.

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    • Is there a limit for regulars or anything? And there's rumors that S7 is Robert Carlyle's last, right? :/

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    • DuduVedana wrote:
      Is there a limit for regulars or anything? And there's rumors that S7 is Robert Carlyle's last, right? :/

      Carlyle apparently said that, but things can always change. The limit to regulars is money, availability, etc. With a new soft reboot, it's likely not wise to make regulars out of everybody and it doesn't mean a lot as we had a few 1 season regulars, so it's pretty frugal to keep some as recurring (like Robin was a regular and we saw him every now and then. Belle was a regular and she spent like half of a few seasons asleep, offscreen, or worse). I don't think they are in a rush for regulars. 

      I didn't expect Tiana to become a regular before the show actually aired in case they wanted to see audience reaction, but I guess they were satisfied. The others were said to be potential to being bumped up, but probably not at this time.

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    • About the LGBQT storyline, they said it's a regular or just a major character?

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    • DuduVedana wrote:
      About the LGBQT storyline, they said it's a regular or just a major character?

      This isn't really the thread about all the season 7 questions, but nope. We only know that it will happen.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      DuduVedana wrote:
      About the LGBQT storyline, they said it's a regular or just a major character?
      This isn't really the thread about all the season 7 questions, but nope. We only know that it will happen.

      Just want to add something here. I think A&E have said that it'll be a new character who will realize that they're gay in the first four episodes.

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    • I think that it's obviously Alice/Tilly... I think the couple will be Alice and Drizella.

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    • Calibaz wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      DuduVedana wrote:
      About the LGBQT storyline, they said it's a regular or just a major character?
      This isn't really the thread about all the season 7 questions, but nope. We only know that it will happen.
      Just want to add something here. I think A&E have said that it'll be a new character who will realize that they're gay in the first four episodes.

      The character won't realize it, they already know, but we as an audience with realize it within the first four episodes. As for the original question, it is most likely a recurring guest character. Smart money is on Drizella or Alice. I'm personally leaning toward Alice.

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    • (MOD): Discuss the LGBT storyline on the LGBT thread.

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    • Conversation that is relevant to this thread: Eloise Gardener is the title of the seventh episode. General speculation is that it's the cursed name of either Rapunzel or the Witch.

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    • I'd say the Witch as in  fairytale, she has a garden which has the rapunzel flower. (Unless it's an ironic name and Rapunzel somehow takes it even though that was her enemy)

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      I'd say the Witch as in  fairytale, she has a garden which has the rapunzel flower. (Unless it's an ironic name and Rapunzel somehow takes it even though that was her enemy)

      I say Witch too. I think Rapunzel is just going to be in the flashbacks and if we're going by important characters who haven't had centrics yet, this episode feels like the Witch's.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      I'd say the Witch as in  fairytale, she has a garden which has the rapunzel flower. (Unless it's an ironic name and Rapunzel somehow takes it even though that was her enemy)

      Eliose also comes from Helios, which is the Sun Titan (and Hyperion's son). As we know, in Tangled, the flower comes from a drop of the sun.

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    • I kind of wonder if Weaver's first name could not be Beau/Beauregard. I think it'd be a funny nod ^^

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    • Theory:

      Zelena will be named Kelly.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Theory:

      Zelena will be named Kelly.

      I thought the same. Maybe Kelly Hunter.

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Theory:

      Zelena will be named Kelly.

      I thought the same. Maybe Kelly Hunter.

      Why Kelly? Lol I've never heard this one. Personally, I hope at least one of her identities is named something like Zelena Greene or Zelena West :P

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    • Tysonjackson wrote:

      Eskaver wrote:


      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Theory:

      Zelena will be named Kelly.

      I thought the same. Maybe Kelly Hunter.
      Why Kelly? Lol I've never heard this one. Personally, I hope at least one of her identities is named something like Zelena Greene or Zelena West :P

      Kelly is a shade of green and one of the names that Zelena was considering giving Robin in "Swan Song". Hunter is also one of the names that Zelena was considering giving Robin in that same episode.

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    • ONCEFanandHappyHippo wrote:
      Tysonjackson wrote:

      Eskaver wrote:


      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Theory:

      Zelena will be named Kelly.

      I thought the same. Maybe Kelly Hunter.
      Why Kelly? Lol I've never heard this one. Personally, I hope at least one of her identities is named something like Zelena Greene or Zelena West :P
      Kelly is a shade of green and one of the names that Zelena was considering giving Robin in "Swan Song". Hunter is also one of the names that Zelena was considering giving Robin in that same episode.

      Kelly West (or Kelly Weste) would be an amazing name.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      ONCEFanandHappyHippo wrote:
      Tysonjackson wrote:

      Eskaver wrote:



      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Theory:

      Zelena will be named Kelly.

      I thought the same. Maybe Kelly Hunter.
      Why Kelly? Lol I've never heard this one. Personally, I hope at least one of her identities is named something like Zelena Greene or Zelena West :P
      Kelly is a shade of green and one of the names that Zelena was considering giving Robin in "Swan Song". Hunter is also one of the names that Zelena was considering giving Robin in that same episode.
      Kelly West (or Kelly Weste) would be an amazing name.

      If Roni and "Kelly" are sisters in the curse, we would have Roni West... It's nice.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Theory:

      Zelena will be named Kelly.

      I thought the same. Maybe Kelly Hunter.

      Esk, we were right about Zelena's cursed name being Kelly.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Theory:

      Zelena will be named Kelly.

      I thought the same. Maybe Kelly Hunter.
      Esk, we were right about Zelena's cursed name being Kelly.

      It was confirmed?!

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    • Slipper Blue wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Theory:

      Zelena will be named Kelly.

      I thought the same. Maybe Kelly Hunter.
      Esk, we were right about Zelena's cursed name being Kelly.
      It was confirmed?!

      Yep, via a pic of a script page.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Slipper Blue wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Theory:

      Zelena will be named Kelly.

      I thought the same. Maybe Kelly Hunter.
      Esk, we were right about Zelena's cursed name being Kelly.
      It was confirmed?!
      Yep, via a pic of a script page.

      So, where does "Eloise" fits? Why didn't we added her in the S7 page?

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    • Slipper Blue wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Slipper Blue wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Theory:

      Zelena will be named Kelly.

      I thought the same. Maybe Kelly Hunter.
      Esk, we were right about Zelena's cursed name being Kelly.
      It was confirmed?!
      Yep, via a pic of a script page.
      So, where does "Eloise" fits? Why didn't we added her in the S7 page?

      Because we don't know who she is yet, although many are suspecting she's the Witch.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Slipper Blue wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Slipper Blue wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Theory:

      Zelena will be named Kelly.

      I thought the same. Maybe Kelly Hunter.
      Esk, we were right about Zelena's cursed name being Kelly.
      It was confirmed?!
      Yep, via a pic of a script page.
      So, where does "Eloise" fits? Why didn't we added her in the S7 page?
      Because we don't know who she is yet, although many are suspecting she's the Witch.

      But shouldn't she be added as "new character"? 

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    • Slipper Blue wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote: Because we don't know who she is yet, although many are suspecting she's the Witch.
      But shouldn't she be added as "new character"? 

      No.... not yet, at least.

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    • Slipper Blue wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Slipper Blue wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Slipper Blue wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Theory:

      Zelena will be named Kelly.

      I thought the same. Maybe Kelly Hunter.
      Esk, we were right about Zelena's cursed name being Kelly.
      It was confirmed?!
      Yep, via a pic of a script page.
      So, where does "Eloise" fits? Why didn't we added her in the S7 page?
      Because we don't know who she is yet, although many are suspecting she's the Witch.
      But shouldn't she be added as "new character"? 

      She may already be there, as the Witch. Like how the Snow Queen's name was revealed to be Ingrid.

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    • So Kelly Is Zelena's Curse Name Who Would've Thought

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    • Cinderella: Jacinda, waitress
      Lady Tremaine: Victoria Belfrey, urban developer
      Drizella: Ivy Belfrey
      Alice: Tilly
      Tiana: Sabine, waitress
      Mother Gothel: Eloise Gardener
      Regina Mills: Roni, bartender
      Killian Jones: Rogers, police officer
      Rumplestilskin: Weaver, undercover detective
      Henry Mills: Henry Mills
      Lucy Mills: Lucy
      Jack: Nick Branson
      Zelena Mills: Kelly
      Dr. Facilier: Samdi
      Robin: ?????

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    • A Spy in the Mirror
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