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  • I think that we should add an icon to pages that have a non-official name (like Witch Farmhouse, Snow Lair, etcetera) in the icon bar on the top right (where there are icons like Hero, Storybrooke, and stuff like that), so we could distinguish pages that have official names (such as the Royal Castle, Game of Thorns, etcetera) and pages that have non-official names created by users/the community. Thoughts?

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    • I disagree. I don't see the utility of this kind of icons. Moreover, we already have a lot of icons, no need to have some icons which are not really useful at the end.

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    • I agree with either this, or a small fixed box. Something like> The name of this article was decided by the Once Upon a Time Wiki community upon evidence, but the subject of this page has not been officially called this way.

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    • Killian Jones wrote:
      I agree with either this, or a small fixed box. Something like> The name of this article was decided by the Once Upon a Time Wiki community upon evidence, but the subject of this page has not been officially called this way.

      Yeah, this is a good suggestion too.

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    • Could you highlight this thread Killian (or other admin)? I think it's an important matter for the Wiki.

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    • I would agree with having something on the page to detonate that how the page is named is not deriving from an official name of the location/item from within the show.

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    • How about something along the lines of 'this article has information within it that has not yet been confirmed or denied but has been agreed upon by the OUAT wiki community to be kept up to date' Otherwise I agree with Killians idea 100%

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    • I still disagree. This kind of idea is too complicated for a wiki like OUAT. I mean, if we begin to precise if the title is from the show or not, we're gonna have a lot of questions.

      - For some elements, the name is official but from a book like Royal Castle. Because it is not official (cos not from the show), what do we do with them.

      - For some elements like Blanchard Appartment or Mills House, can we really say it is not the official name of these elements? What could be these official names?

      - Then, and the most important thing, this kind of template CLEARLY means if we have an official name, the page will be renamed if the name is in the show. And we have a lot of "official names" in the show, the Snow Lair is officially named Snow Queen's lair by Belle, the Witch Farmhouse is officially named Farmhouse by Emma, the Magic Urn is named the Urn in the show, etc... You see my point? That's not like we did not  have some official names for these elements, it is the fact we choose to don't use them like that. That's why I precisely think we don't have to use a template saying it is not official ^^

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    • Places and things often have multiple names or no offical names, so I don't see the point. For example, does your house have an offical name? (Unless you are extremely weathly and live in a manor or mansion, than probably not). If anything, it is usually named like this: CoolDudeAl's house. How about your things? Do you have an offical name for your toothbrush, or your cellphone, or your computer? Again, you just name them like this: CoolDudeAl's toothbrush, CoolDudeAl's cellphone, CoolDudeAl's computer. So yeah, not seeing the point, we know place and thing names are not offical.

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    • I agree with something saying it's isn't the official name and @LadyJunky, the book was in Canon so that name was still official

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Places and things often have multiple names or no offical names, so I don't see the point. For example, does your house have an offical name? (Unless you are extremely weathly and live in a manor or mansion, than probably not). If anything, it is usually named like this: CoolDudeAl's house. How about your things? Do you have an offical name for your toothbrush, or your cellphone, or your computer? Again, you just name them like this: CoolDudeAl's toothbrush, CoolDudeAl's cellphone, CoolDudeAl's computer. So yeah, not seeing the point, we know place and thing names are not offical.


      Exactly, so there is no point to have a template or icon like that.

      @Gusey: technically we don't a source saying Reawekened is canon.

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    • I'm willing to support this idea as it will clearly show if the name is official or if it has been coined by this wiki. Maybe have the icon in the infobox next to the location name (e.g. Snow Lair *).

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    • I am going to go with Lady Junky on this one.  What's being proposed is going to entail a lot of work for what I see as very little benefit.  I think as long as the name clearly identifies what is being referenced (such as Blanchard Apartment, Mayors Office, Old Farmhouse, etc), There is really no need to denote how "official" a name is.

      I would say that it we find out later that a place or thing has an official name, then we just update that one page to the official name, with maybe a note indicating other names the item is known by.

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    • Would it be easier (more useful) to designate something that is using an official name instead of trying to denote items/things with an Unofficial name marker?

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    • I also don't think it's needed to say what's official or what's not. We all can agree on a certain name for a certain item or location and be OK with it. It's not necessary to say atricle name was decided by the community when it's already noted. And if official names were released the decided title would have to change and it would be a headache to decide should we change it since it's official or keep it since it was voted. Overall I don't think it's necessary.

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    • Killian Jones wrote:
      I agree with either this, or a small fixed box. Something like> The name of this article was decided by the Once Upon a Time Wiki community upon evidence, but the subject of this page has not been officially called this way.

      Teyilia wrote:

      How about something along the lines of 'this article has information within it that has not yet been confirmed or denied but has been agreed upon by the OUAT wiki community to be kept up to date' Otherwise I agree with Killians idea 100%

      i agree with either of these. there may be a consenus with non-official names within the wiki but other circles (ie other sites and groups) might use different names for the same thing so i think the disclaimer is nice.

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    • Andrew.scott.503 wrote:
      Would it be easier (more useful) to designate something that is using an official name instead of trying to denote items/things with an Unofficial name marker?


      That's a good suggestion too.

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    • Applegirl wrote:
      Andrew.scott.503 wrote:
      Would it be easier (more useful) to designate something that is using an official name instead of trying to denote items/things with an Unofficial name marker?

      That's a good suggestion too.

      I agree

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    • I agree with that. It's less complicated

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    • Just a suggestion that kind of contradicts my earlier comment that supports labelling officially named locations and things, but I saw this on the Avatar Wiki and thought that this could partially solve the problem. They have a small notification box at the top of the page below the title that says quote:


      "Well, that's not its name ... but ...

      The term "[INSTERT PAGE NAME]" has not been confirmed by official sources."


      See Eastern Sea on their wiki and you'll see what I mean. Maybe something like this could be used instead of another one of many icons at the top of the page. This makes the point easily seen. Just a suggestion.

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    • NickM98 wrote:
      Just a suggestion that kind of contradicts my earlier comment that supports labelling officially named locations and things, but I saw this on the Avatar Wiki and thought that this could partially solve the problem. They have a small notification box at the top of the page below the title that says quote:


      "Well, that's not its name ... but ...

      The term "[INSTERT PAGE NAME]" has not been confirmed by official sources."


      See Eastern Sea on their wiki and you'll see what I mean. Maybe something like this could be used instead of another one of many icons at the top of the page. This makes the point easily seen. Just a suggestion.

      While I like this suggestion, I think that the box would be too big, and it would be an issue mainly for pages that already have a similar box (like Prince Charming, who has a box with "This article focuses on Prince Charming'Enchanted Forest persona. For his Storybrooke counterpart, see David Nolan. For the character he impersonated, see Prince James.")

      Twp good options I saw on the Kirby Wiki:

      1 - Adding a template next to the page's name which would be an asterisk (*), and when you hover the mouse over it it would say "This article's name has never been confirmed by official sources so it has been given a fitting name." or something like that. (see this page for an example, see the asterisk (*) next to Big Dice on the list, it says "Conjectural name".)

      2 - Almost the same thing Nick said, but the box is slightly different (flatter but longer, see this page for an example)

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    • I don't really see the point in it, either. As many pointed out, the Storybrooke Town Hall or the sheriff station may have official names, but few other locations would.

      Taking the discussion to a more general level,

      1. Isn't the "This article's subject is involved with the Once Upon A Time" icon... err... redundant? I tried to browse, but I couldn't find a single page that does not qualify.

      2. On Firefox 33.1 for Mac, the text which shows when I hover the mouse on the icon displays the ' code instead of the apostrophe.

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    • GothicNarcissus wrote: I don't really see the point in it, either. As many pointed out, the Storybrooke Town Hall or the sheriff station may have official names, but few other locations would.

      Taking the discussion to a more general level,

      1. Isn't the "This article's subject is involved with the Once Upon A Time" icon... err... redundant? I tried to browse, but I couldn't find a single page that does not qualify.

      2. On Firefox 33.1 for Mac, the text which shows when I hover the mouse on the icon displays the ' code instead of the apostrophe.

      Sorry for the late response. I believe the spin-off characters don't have that icon :P THe code thing was a template problem, which I fixed.

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