Wikia

Once Upon a Time Wiki

Regina and Robin?

  • The thought of them together was totally unexpected for me. Do you think it was possible that Rumple knew about it when Robin tried to steal from him? Any thoughts on that couple?

      Loading editor
    • Well Robin Hood steal from him was during the process of the evil queens curse.the fairy godmother's wand was stolen when the queen was already evil.

        Loading editor
    • I would say, chronologically that rumple took belle in, then Robin Hood came, then his wife gave birth to Rolland and died, then or near the same time Regina lost Daniel, then tink set her up with Robin, then she didn't go. Then the queen became evil and snow regained her throne, then the fairy godmother lost her wand and life to Rumple. If I had to guess, I would say rumple started out with the wand, then lost it to Robin, who then gave it to the fairy godmother. If you think about it in "the evil queen" episode while snow is still a bandit, Regina goes to rumple to go undercover and he mentions that he got belle recently. And right after he got belle, he lost the wand.

        Loading editor
    • Budloopy4 wrote:
      I would say, chronologically that rumple took belle in, then Robin Hood came, then his wife gave birth to Rolland and died, then or near the same time Regina lost Daniel

      That would make Bell older than Regina cause many years has passed between Regina losing Daniel and her casting the Dark Curse. 

      If I had to guess, I would say rumple started out with the wand, then lost it to Robin, who then gave it to the fairy godmother.

      Neither that is right chronological order, nor I see the reason for Robin to give that wand to a fairy cause fairies have their own wands.

        Loading editor
    • Does anyone else find the pixie dust/perfect match/predestined one true love thing really skeevy?

      Because prior to now, even with the obvious OTL ships (Snowing, Rumbelle), there's been an effort on the part of the writers to create a backstory that explains why these characters love each other so all-consumingly. And then even with Daniel, the emotional connection he and young Regina have is real and tangible and their backstory is, if not shown, at least heavily implied.

      But now we have "oh follow the magical trail of pixie dust and it will take you to your perfect match" combined with "because you didn't meet your perfect match, you ruined his life and yours," which, I don't know, it just seems icky to combine love and predestination so explicitly. It sort of removes the element of choice—there's this either/or dichotomy, where Regina goes into the tavern and meets Robin and they live happily ever after OR Regina runs away and is miserable and broken and angry for the rest of her life, plus Robin gets screwed over in this scenario too

      and just, the idea that Robin's life was ruined by a person he never met, never had any kind of interaction with, and never even knew existed in anything but abstract "she's the queen" terms...

      I mean I assume they're going to meet later in this season and there'll be some demonstration that they have superawesome chemistry and instant passion a la Snowing, except because of what happened in this episode it's always going to feel like "because pixie dust said so" and not "because they're compatible people," especially since Regina will see the tattoo and for the majority of their relationship, she's going to be thinking about how he's her pixie-dust-guaranteed perfect match.

        Loading editor
    • TNOandXadric wrote:
      Does anyone else find the pixie dust/perfect match/predestined one true love thing really skeevy?

      {removed due to length}

      I mean I assume they're going to meet later in this season and there'll be some demonstration that they have superawesome chemistry and instant passion a la Snowing, except because of what happened in this episode it's always going to feel like "because pixie dust said so" and not "because they're compatible people," especially since Regina will see the tattoo and for the majority of their relationship, she's going to be thinking about how he's her pixie-dust-guaranteed perfect match.

      Tinker Bell's pixie dust is no different, than what Rumplestiltskin did with Snow White and Prince Charming. Tinker Bell's timing was just wrong.

      Regina and Robin Hood will meet later this season, but sparks will not fly right off the bat. You seem to forget, that Regina is the woman who cast the Dark Curse.... which is what ruined everyone's lives. It is obviously going to take some time for Robin Hood to see past all that, and give her a chance. If anything, it will be little Roland who sees the good in Regina first.

      That said, Regina and Robin Hood are compatible. She is a strong, independent single mother. He has an edge and is not a pushover, while still being family oriented. Not to mention, their senses of humor will bounce well off each other.

        Loading editor
    • But Rumpel never grabbed Snow and pointed at Charming and said "That guy. That's your one true love. Go get him." They met before he started interfering in their lives, and if I recall correctly his first major interference was to give Snow that anti-love potion because she sought him out in hopes of getting an anti-love potion. Then he kept manipulating them after that until they were positioned like he wanted them to be.

      Whereas the first time Regina meets Robin and sees that tattoo, what's going to be in her head is "that's the guy the pixie dust indicated was my perfect match who I'm destined to fall madly in love and be happy forever with." Sooo for her, her entire relationship with him is going to have this undercurrent of having to fall for the guy, because he's her—in her own words—soulmate. That's the part that creeps me out, not so much that they have personalities that would, in fact, get along well.

      I'm actually not sure how badly Robin would react re: Dark Curse. He didn't come off that badly—he stayed in the FTR, he was never separated from his family, Marian was already dead before the curse so it's not like he'll blame Regina for that. It depends, I think, on how aware he is of the 28 years he spent frozen, and how he feels about what happened to the FTR as a result. On the one hand, if he remembers being stuck and doing the exact same thing for 28 years, yeah, he's probably pretty pissed. On the other, if the memories overwrote from day to day so it reads in his head as one day instead of twenty-eight years, then the most Regina took from him with the curse was a single day + security because ogres (although presumably those aren't everywhere and Rumpel's castle looked pretty safe). It's also possible that the FTR wasn't on a dayloop like Storybrooke, since the ogres managed to invade, so maybe people there were trapped the way Regina was—memories intact, but not aging physically—in which case, that's also a huge problem.

      Personality-wise, I've no doubt they'll have chemistry, but I'm not actually rooting for the relationship for the reasons I outlined—I don't think any relationship that begins with one (or both, in the even that Regina or Tink spills about the pixie dust to Robin) partners framing it as "this is happening because fate said so" rather than "wow I really like this person" is one that I want to ship.

        Loading editor
    • TNOandXadric wrote:
      But Rumpel never grabbed Snow and pointed at Charming and said "That guy. That's your one true love. Go get him." They met before he started interfering in their lives, and if I recall correctly his first major interference was to give Snow that anti-love potion because she sought him out in hopes of getting an anti-love potion. Then he kept manipulating them after that until they were positioned like he wanted them to be.

      Incorrect.... Rumplestiltskin had been interfering in Prince Charming's life, since the day he was born. Why do you think he made that deal with Ruth and her husband, to begin with? 

      Rumplestiltkin needed, little shepherd boy, David to eventually become a prince. Only then would he have been able to meet Snow White, and fall in love with her. It was just not as direct, as Tinker Bell's pixie dust.

      Look.... I am sure the writers will do the romance, between Regina and Robin Hood, justice. She is one of the lead characters, on the show. Just be glad, they chose someone she is compatible with. We all know, it could have been a lot worse.

        Loading editor
    • Direct interference, I should have said—by which I mean interference that Snow and Charming know about. David has no idea that Rumpel intended for him to become a prince with the intent of setting him up with Snow. When Charming meets Snow, he hasn't a clue who she is or that he's going to fall in love with her, and their relationship progressed naturally.

      Because Regina will know from the beginning that she *has* to fall in love with Robin because he's her *soulmate* after all, the relationship's not going to be able to progress naturally. They could work it out, of course, with very open and clear communication and lots of it and the luxury of time in which to figure things out. 

      But if the show rushes through the early stages like it did with Snowing? That's... not something I'll be comfortable with, because unlike Snow and Charming, Regina's going to be approaching Robin with the knowledge that he's her predestined perfectly matched soulmate.

        Loading editor
    • TNOandXadric wrote:

      Because Regina will know from the beginning that she *has* to fall in love with Robin because he's her *soulmate* after all, the relationship's not going to be able to progress naturally. They could work it out, of course, with very open and clear communication and lots of it and the luxury of time in which to figure things out. 

      Except, Regina has no idea what her soulmate looks like. All she knows, is that he has a lion tattoo.... which Robin Hood actually keeps covered up, most of the time.

      It will probably be Regina being drawn to Roland's innocence, that causes her to take notice of Robin Hood. Similar, to what happened in the Welcome to Storybrooke flashback.... albeit, without the tragic ending. It will only be after Regina starts falling for Robin Hood; that she realizes he is the man, Tinker Bell told her about.

        Loading editor
    • Wearing long sleeves isn't exactly the same as hiding a tattoo, though, and the whole reveal *both times* was done because he reached forward and his sleeve slid back—something as simple as reaching out to shake hands could do it, and add that to the fact that Robin's an archer, something which involves a lot of arm movements that would pull sleeves back in that manner. Granted, Regina might not see the tattoo right away, but I can't imagine it would be very long after, particularly not if they meet in Neverland or the FTR, where there are Lost Boys or ogres to look out for.

      (Forget Roland's innocence, though—it's the UTTER WEAPONIZED CUTENESS that lures her in. Obviously.)

      There's the possibility for a great storyline, though. Regina sees the tattoo early on and is super conflicted because there's Tink's whole "oh you ruined his life too" thing (even though Marian must have been on the horizon at that point, because Roland), but on the other hand she desperately wants to be happy and this is the guy who's supposed to make her happy, but what if the pixie dust was wrong and it doesn't work out or what if trying to force it will just scare him away, and so on, and presumably she's nigh-supernaturally attracted to him because apparently that's how Once's OTLs work. So much potential for emotional conflict and internal journeys, there.

        Loading editor
    • TNOandXadric wrote:

      There's the possibility for a great storyline, though. Regina sees the tattoo early on and is super conflicted because there's Tink's whole "oh you ruined his life too" thing. {removed due to length} So much potential for emotional conflict and internal journeys, there.

      Of course.... let us hope that this romance, lives up to its fullest potential. 

      I am more interested in seeing how the Regina/Robin Hood storyline plays out, than the Hook/Emma/Neal love triangle. Add in Regina trying to mend her friendship with Tinker Bell, and we are set.

        Loading editor
    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      TNOandXadric wrote:

      There's the possibility for a great storyline, though. Regina sees the tattoo early on and is super conflicted because there's Tink's whole "oh you ruined his life too" thing. {removed due to length} So much potential for emotional conflict and internal journeys, there.

      Of course.... let us hope that this romance, lives up to its fullest potential. 

      I am more interested in seeing how the Regina/Robin Hood storyline plays out, than the Hook/Emma/Neal love triangle. Add in Regina trying to mend her friendship with Tinker Bell, and we are set.

      I am so eager for the necxt episode. Nasty habits!! Squeeeeeeee!! D;

        Loading editor
    • i think that when tink said regina ruined robin's life too, she meant as in he wouldn't be able to ever fully love someone and all his relationships failed. thats probably why his wife died

        Loading editor
    • TNOandXadric wrote:
      Does anyone else find the pixie dust/perfect match/predestined one true love thing really skeevy?

      Because prior to now, even with the obvious OTL ships (Snowing, Rumbelle), there's been an effort on the part of the writers to create a backstory that explains why these characters love each other so all-consumingly. And then even with Daniel, the emotional connection he and young Regina have is real and tangible and their backstory is, if not shown, at least heavily implied.

      But now we have "oh follow the magical trail of pixie dust and it will take you to your perfect match" combined with "because you didn't meet your perfect match, you ruined his life and yours," which, I don't know, it just seems icky to combine love and predestination so explicitly. It sort of removes the element of choice—there's this either/or dichotomy, where Regina goes into the tavern and meets Robin and they live happily ever after OR Regina runs away and is miserable and broken and angry for the rest of her life, plus Robin gets screwed over in this scenario too

      and just, the idea that Robin's life was ruined by a person he never met, never had any kind of interaction with, and never even knew existed in anything but abstract "she's the queen" terms...

      I mean I assume they're going to meet later in this season and there'll be some demonstration that they have superawesome chemistry and instant passion a la Snowing, except because of what happened in this episode it's always going to feel like "because pixie dust said so" and not "because they're compatible people," especially since Regina will see the tattoo and for the majority of their relationship, she's going to be thinking about how he's her pixie-dust-guaranteed perfect match.

      __

      If I remember it correctly Charming had this ring his mother gave to him when he decided to leave the farmhouse and took Midas' offer. The ring is supposed to lead you to your true love (EP The Shepherd). It did so in a Price of Magic. Leading Charming to Snow White under a sleeping Curse.  So that ring is a sort of gurantee of True Love, too.

      True love follows this ring whereever it goes, my son. (106)

      Snow stole it from him (Snow falls) After their adventure with the trolls Charming wanted to give this ring to Snow White, however she didn't want to have it then. But still, it reunited them in the Price of Magic. Henry's book says the Troll Bridge was where their love began

      The only difference right now is that Regina already knows something (and has to try to be open to it) that Robin Hood still has to figure out. Charming and Snow had to figure it out together.

      At some point both 'couples' had some magical help.

        Loading editor
    • Beinqunique wrote:
      i think that when tink said regina ruined robin's life too, she meant as in he wouldn't be able to ever fully love someone and all his relationships failed. thats probably why his wife died

      Maybe it's just a gut feeling of me but I think Marian was Robin's first true love he met (like Daniel was for Regina) and Regina is his second chance, too.

      We still know little of Robin's past with Marian so I can't say why Tink would say that. But I know one thing.

      Marian died because Robin made a mistake. After our boy was born I inadvertently put her in harm’s way during the job. It’s my fault. (Witch Hunt)

      This might be enough to ruin a life being responsible for the fact that Roland has to grow up without a mother. At least Robin blames himself for it.

        Loading editor
    • I think Tinkerbell was just flat out wrong when she said that stuff about Robin's life being ruined. The pixie dust may indicate a potential true love match-up but the couple still has to work at it and its not the only possible match for either one. Tink is a fairy after all, she probably overestimates the importance of fairy magic and fate while overlooking factors like free will and self-determination (like how Blue insisted that Grumpy and Astrid can't be together because of who they are).

      If Charming had given up on Snow when she forgot about him then they would never have been together in the end. Conversely, even without pixie dust to show Robin the way, he found another True Love and made the most of it. Regina probably could have found someone else besides Daniel or Robin but she was too absorbed in her grief and hatred to want to find happiness again.

        Loading editor
    • Toma Cre wrote:
      I think Tinkerbell was just flat out wrong when she said that stuff about Robin's life being ruined. The pixie dust may indicate a potential true love match-up but the couple still has to work at it and its not the only possible match for either one. Tink is a fairy after all, she probably overestimates the importance of fairy magic and fate while overlooking factors like free will and self-determination (like how Blue insisted that Grumpy and Astrid can't be together because of who they are).If Charming had given up on Snow when she forgot about him then they would never have been together in the end. Conversely, even without pixie dust to show Robin the way, he found another True Love and made the most of it. Regina probably could have found someone else besides Daniel or Robin but she was too absorbed in her grief and hatred to want to find happiness again.

      ___________________________________________________________________________

      Maybe Tink was wrong. After all, Regina turned down her offer and Tink lost her wings. So Tink likely feels anger towards Regina, probably causing her using harsh words.

      Maybe not. I can't judge that at the moment, because information is missing.

      Regina didn't meet Robin back then and became the Evil Queen. Perhaps her life would have turned out differently if she had gone through this door. 

      At that time Regina thought she needed that anger and grief to determine who she is and what she wants. So yeah, basically it is her "fault" if you wanna call it so. The Dark Curse didn't make Regina happy.

      Robin found his true love (I suppose) in Marian but he put her into harm's way and she died. Nevertheless he has his son he can care for.  That gave him a reason to live (313)

      Mulan is the only woman since Marian who we know of who joined his Merry Man. We don't have seen any flashbacks yet that focus on Robin Hood's past life considering the time span between him not meeting Regina and Marian giving birth to Roland. We don't know the events leading to her death and we don't know what happened to him before he joined the journey to the castle. So there are a lot of blanks that need to be filled. A lot of blanks in which a life can be ruined. 


      Charming; I think that's a thing about true love: You can't just give up fighting for it. If there's still someone who remebers. 


        Loading editor
    • Regina and Robin are lucky that Cora is dead now that they are together or Robin would be just another man disposed of by Cora.

        Loading editor
    • TNOandXadric wrote:
      Direct interference, I should have said—by which I mean interference that Snow and Charming know about. David has no idea that Rumpel intended for him to become a prince with the intent of setting him up with Snow. When Charming meets Snow, he hasn't a clue who she is or that he's going to fall in love with her, and their relationship progressed naturally.

      Because Regina will know from the beginning that she *has* to fall in love with Robin because he's her *soulmate* after all, the relationship's not going to be able to progress naturally. They could work it out, of course, with very open and clear communication and lots of it and the luxury of time in which to figure things out. 

      But if the show rushes through the early stages like it did with Snowing? That's... not something I'll be comfortable with, because unlike Snow and Charming, Regina's going to be approaching Robin with the knowledge that he's her predestined perfectly matched soulmate.

      But when Regina first meets Robin, she doesn't see the lion tattoo on his arm so she doesn't know he is her *soulmate*. They do have instant chemistry, as when she speaks with him and she learns he, too, has a son whom he truly cares about. They do have things in common and he does seem to fall for her, regardless of that she was the Evil Queen and she has darkness in her heart. As seen in the previous episodes of OUAT, he really loves her and she loves him, even though now she knows that he's her soulmate.

        Loading editor
    • 54.82.82.201
        Loading editor
Give Kudos to this message
You've given this message Kudos!
See who gave Kudos to this message

Around Wikia's network

Random Wiki