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  • I think it's worth mentioning how well another ABC show does and how low the ratings are before it gets cancelled.  I could have used any ABC show as an example (or more than one) unless it was way far back and I still would have stuck to my opinion, and I think you stating that you will delete any further mentioning of OUATIW in regards to it's ratings just because you think 'it is not related' is an abuse of your forum mod rights, especially considering that you appear to be of a biased opinion.

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    • The topic of the thread is "Season 7 ratings". Discussing ratings from three to four years ago is disingenious and unncessary. Even more so, it was a different show on a different night, so there's little conversation to be had concerning that.

      It's fair to discuss season 6's ratings, ratings of other Friday shows recently, and other shows currently airing; however, there is a time limit in regards to such an issue.

      It's like comparing Once Season 7 to Once season 1 and saying 'Look at the terrible ratings!" when that doesn't lead to a credible discussion. Another equivalent is like discussing Grey's Anatomy ratings in 2015 with Once season 7. This is the same with OUATIW and OUAT season 7. Different shows, different nights, different years.

      Feel free to open a separate thread about OUATIW ratings (though that show has been cancelled). I don't want you to thik that you can't discuss a topic; however, the season 7 ratings thread is not the place to discuss OUATIW ratings.

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    • I only mentioned OUATIW as an example of a show that was cancelled by ABC, and that if OUAT was getting ratings lower than that of a cancelled show, then it didn't look good.  So no, it's not like comparing season 7's ratings to that of season 1 or Grey's Anatomy in 2015 (unless Grey's Anatomy was also cancelled).

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    • I understand why. However, it isn't relevant as the standards for ABC have changed over the years.

      Ex. link: https://www.marketingcharts.com/featured-24817

      ABC has different standards over the years, across the week, and has now additional factors it uses when it makes decisions.

      Ex. OUATIW and Season 6 had similar ratings, but Once in 2017 was renewed, where as OUATIW wasn't in 2014.

      Thus, the ratings standard has changed over the years and have additional factors, as ABC exec Channing Dungey has mentioned Once in the relationship with Netflix, etc. So, we can't compare across 3 years of difference.

      Ex. Ten Days of the Valley (2017) was cancelled within weeks, but Once has similar ratongs, currently.

      So, we see that we can't compare across days of the week, either. There's also articles about how Friday night shows have lower standards and expect to have lower ratings than shows Sunday through Thursday.

      To close, this is why OUATIW is not best to be discussed on the season 7 thread as it holds no relationship (being on Thurday, being aired in 2013/2014). We can only use shows in the 2016-2017 cycle a best and preferably on Fridays, on ABC.

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  • If your going to delete my post responding to Farerb, you should delete his response to me. His was clearly mimicing me to be inflametory, whereas my original responce to him was sincere.

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    • Chances are it came after my MOD post, thus your post was deleted.

      I'll take a second look and will go from there. The thread honestly is probably going to be closed or end up looking like a wasteland. As if there weren't honest discussion, it would just be vocalizing the same points, time and time again (but that's my personal thought).

      Thanks! 

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    • Overall the thread is okay, some people are making valid points, some are just general complaints about the Rumbelle relationship (or how they inturpet it), and then a few are just general "this show sucks" (although that may have only been Farerb on this particular thread). Anyway, thanks for moding, I know it's not always the easiest job.

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  • Hey there! I have a problem with your definition of trans people, and I don't think you should share it. You can not say that a trans man is a girl who identifies as male. A trans man is not a girl. A trans man is a man who identifies as male. If that is what you personally think, you have every right to do so, but this kind of thought is not going to be allowed on this wiki. It is devastating for young trans people to read this kind of thing online. And for any cisgender person who reads that, it could reinforce transphobic ideas.

    I personally hope it was a misunderstanding and that you didn't really mean that a trans man is a girl who identifies as male, but if you do really think that, I beg you to keep it to yourself. Thank you.

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  • Dude reopen that thread of was not spoiling anything that show already spoiled it!

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    • Well then can you move my what's next page onto season 7!?!

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    • Water8833 wrote:
      Well then can you move my what's next page onto season 7!?!

      I cannot. Feel free to make a new thread; however, it can't duplicate an already open thread.

      We have threads discusssing every upcoming episode and current news/information. You could make a wishlist or something else. "What's next?" is vague and you can't simply discuss everything that comes to mind as there's discussion elsewhere about it. 

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  • Fareb seems to have it wrong. I did not call him a misogynist because we disagree over Killian/CS, I called him one because he made a sexist accusation that I (a woman) only like Hook because I am attracted to him (despite the fact that I am not attracted in any way to Hook or men in general). Which is very misogynistic as it reduces women to their vaginas and states that women cannot thnk rationally around attractive men.

    It also invalidated my sexuality as an aroace.

    I admit that the "woman hater" bit was too far, but if I am disrespectful for calling out his sexism, is he not disrespectful for being sexist?

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    • He didn't accuse you of that as I remember. Nevertheless, name-calling isn't right in any case. 

      But all of that is in the past, let's move forward.

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    • He did. He said "Regina is not a hot dude so she doesn't get a free pass". If name calling is not OK in your books, slut shaming should not be either.

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    • Aine1989 wrote:
      He did. He said "Regina is not a hot dude so she doesn't get a free pass".

      If name calling is not OK in your books, slut shaming should not be either.

      That's a misunderstanding of sarcasm, not anything else. Nonetheless, the issue has passed. 

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  • I'm letting you know that I've been called women hater in here http://onceuponatime.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:256605#216 which is disrespectful towards me, if she has to disrespect people just because of a fictional character, then she should check her priorities.

    I'm letting you know because I don't want to be dragged into nonsensical fights anymore, I'd appreciate if you do something about it.

    Thank you

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    • Thank you, 

      I've decided to close the thread and open up a separate one that will continue to abide by the forum rules and be more "on-topic" with that issue.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Thank you, 

      I've decided to close the thread and open up a separate one that will continue to abide by the forum rules and be more "on-topic" with that issue.

      It's funny that I was writing a reply the second you closed it and it took me quite some time to realise why the page wasn't loading XD

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      Thank you, 

      I've decided to close the thread and open up a separate one that will continue to abide by the forum rules and be more "on-topic" with that issue.

      It's funny that I was writing a reply the second you closed it and it took me quite some time to realise why the page wasn't loading XD

      Sorry XD. Chances are all you'd see is like a dozen deleted responses if I didn't.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      FrancisPaul wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      Thank you, 

      I've decided to close the thread and open up a separate one that will continue to abide by the forum rules and be more "on-topic" with that issue.

      It's funny that I was writing a reply the second you closed it and it took me quite some time to realise why the page wasn't loading XD
      Sorry XD. Chances are all you'd see is like a dozen deleted responses if I didn't.

      Makes sense. Guess I'll post on the new thread you'll open ^^

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  • Hey! I'm looking for a post of mine but I don't remember what thread it was in. I listed a few instances in which the characters said things which were later revealed to be untrue (Lancelot's death, the darkness vs. the sorcerer, etc.) and you replied something like "most of those aren't real examples."

    Do you happen to remember which thread I'm referring to? I need it for a list page I'm working on. Thank you!

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  • Can you please stop moving my threads to Q&A section as no one responds in that area and its fine in general discussion

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    • It is up to the moderators' or admins' discretion on where a thread will be placed. I felt that it goes into the Q & A board because it's a question that has a relatively simple answer and generates no theory or anything otherwise. Just because you feel as though no one responds in that board is meaningless. Anyone that sees overall wiki activity can simply see it and respond to it as they wish. 

      Nevertheless, the thread will remain where it is.

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  • The old topic is full.

    Can you make a new one?

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  • I accidently made an anonymous comment on The song in your heart thread. Is there anyway to delete it? Thanks in advance

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