I expected Cora to die but not by Mary Marergt tricking Regina.Ā Sorta strange episode.Ā I could see this happening from the begininng of the episode.
I expected Cora to die but not by Mary Marergt tricking Regina.Ā Sorta strange episode.Ā I could see this happening from the begininng of the episode.
Snow didn't kill Cora for any sense of vengenace or justice.Ā She was convinced that if she take action Cora would become the Dark One and make Rumple's time as the Dark One seem like an episode of Sesame Street.Ā She was doing it to protect all worlds everywhere.
That being said, I am not a fan of Snow White.Ā We've already seen her kill many many people with her own hand and is totally OK with the amount of death and destruction that is left in the wake of her search for her happy ending.Ā She's OK with breaking into Regina's castle and killing many of her guards (who are prolly just dudes trying to feed their famiies) with a smile on her face as she does so, yet she's upset when she kills Cora, someone who actually deserves it.
She's self righteous and arrogant, and I can't stand her.
^^ Thats war and self preservation. Regina declared war on her, massacred villages completely if they helped snow a bit. Going by that Snow should haveĀ gotĀ herselfĀ killedĀ right away and save all lives. But it does not work that way. People get killed in war, and those who choose the wrong side, ends up losing more. Regina's guards were all snow's father's guards . I don't know how this works, but wasĀ Snow not the rightful heir to the throneĀ ? Then the guards all choosing Regina's side itself was wrong.
I can't stand Snow either. She's such a goody goody. Her and Prince Charming always turn everything into a soap opera. But anyway, I honestly didn't want Cora to die. I acually would've preferred Rumple to die. He just doesn't make that much of an impression with me anymore (although I do like how the writer's are humanizing him when it comes to Belle). I just think that Cora's presence adds to the plot while Rumple doesn't add nor takeĀ away from it.Ā I would've loved to see Cora and Regina's plans unfold. I also would've loved to see their relationship progress. After Cora got her heart back, she looked at Regina with such loving & tearfulĀ eyes...it really touched my heart! And it made her death all the more sadĀ ;( It's bad enough the writers never gave Regina and Henry a real relationship (he spends more time with Emma and all the other goody goody's...it really pisses me off!). I feel like Regina can never catch a break!
It was a good decision to kill off Cora. She was a great character and antoganist. When she got her hearts back and had that loving smile, you just had to cry knowing she would drop dead any second. I don't often cry watching series, but I really had to wipe a tear away.Ā
I agree with Snow's current personality, it sucks. She acts very stupid, then she wants this, then she wants that. It's annoying. It irritates me too that Henry keeps calling Regina mom, and Emma by her first name, just call them both your mom, I don't really get why they don't do that. The same with Emma towards her parents. I know that she met them as MM and David, but why doesn't she start calling them mom and dad, it only will help strengten the bond between them.
Wow, wow, wow, WOW! I can't believe how RUDE some people are being to Snow, Emma and Charming! They are HUMAN, and try to see the good in people. How would the reaction have been if they hadn't saved Regina during "And Straight on Til Morning"? They're attacked no matter what they do.
It's so frustrating being a fan of theirs and seeing them attacked every day on every single freaking forum.
The entire plot of the entire series is Rumple's doing.Ā The entire journey is started by Rumple searching for his son.Ā How can you say he doesn't affect the plot?Ā He IS the plot?
I agree with Snow's current personality, it sucks. She acts very stupid, then she wants this, then she wants that. It's annoying. It irritates me too that Henry keeps calling Regina mom, and Emma by her first name, just call them both your mom, I don't really get why they don't do that. The same with Emma towards her parents. I know that she met them as MM and David, but why doesn't she start calling them mom and dad, it only will help strengten the bond between them.
It's so easy to point out a character's weak points and what you don't like about him/her, but it makes more sense trying to place yourself in that person's shoes. Snow White is not a bad character. She's certainly someone who has a high level of morals and standards. Think of the things/people who are important to her most for her whole life. When she was young, Snow was spoiled and ignorant about the level of haughtiness in which how she treated those lesser rank or stature than her. She believed treating them like that was correct because of her entitlement as a royal, but it was her mother who instilled in her the teachings of being respectful and kind to everyone no matter their rank. It was her mother's words that helped her to turn away from the candle even though it would have given her a chance to save her mother's life. Just because Snow is a "goody goody" doesn't make her a boring or hateful character, or at least that's how I see it because she's someone who learned from a young age to always hold kindness in her heart and following that rule all throughout her life. When Mary Margaret decided to change and turn the tables on Cora, that was a growth and conflict in her character. She was starting to lean to the other side because it was frustrating for her to have always be good and kind yet it was basicaly getting her nowhere in terms of winning/defeating those who threatened her and the lives of her family. Every character has traits that depending on perception people will find redeemable or interesting and for others flat or dull. But it's not necessary to basically kamikaze a whole character's characterization just because you don't like him/her.
As a viewer, it is also really easy to think things like, "Why didn't ___ do this? Why didn't ____ say this?" I think many viewers often forget a tv show should be watched as if the characters are real, living people who have feelings and emotions and can right or wrong decisions. So the things you see them doing or not doing is all part of the person in question. You ask why Henry doesn't directly to call Emma "mom" from the start when he first met her? I don't know how you can expect a kid who just met his birth mother to just right off the bat call her the "mom" word. As Henry said to Mr. Gold in "Manhattan", he did harbor some ill feelings about Emma having given him up, but he also explained he understood the situation better and forgave her for it. Just because Henry is a child meeting his birth mother does not make it any different than an adult adopted child meeting his or her birth parent for the first time. Do you think that person would call their birth parent "mom" or "dad" just like that? I don't think so. And as much as Henry is wrapped up in season one in thinking of Regina, his mom, as the Evil Queen, she is still his mother. She raised him. She is his legal guardian.
Same point with why Emma doesn't call MM and David "mom" and "dad" until the very end of the finale. She's spent the whole second season adjusting to her newfound family. InĀ the most earliest of episodes, like "Broken" and "We Are Both" you can obviously see she is still quite uncomfortable with the sudden change and discovery. You cannot possibly expect someone to adjust 100% to having just met her parents. And no, it's not something that can be finished and done with in three episodes and all of a sudden she starts calling them "mom" and "dad"?
In "We Are Both", what do you think Emma was crying about in the baby nursery scene? She was realizing for the first time that although it upsets her her birth parents did give her up and abandon her, they did it for good reason behind the action, and by giving their child up, Snow and Charming also had to give up their family and make sacrifices in splitting up due to the curse. Emma was getting emotional because she realized she's being put first in someone else's thoughts for once. Like any new relationship, it takes time and effort to get used to, especially for Emma. Think of Emma's character. She's spent most of her adult life shielding and hiding herself emotionally and not getting close to people. It makes perfect sense why it would take a lot more time for her to open herself up to her parents.
Let's say it this way. I don't really like Mary Margeret. I like Snow very much, but MM just seems completely different from Snow. I like her for the most part, I only was pointing out what I didn't like about her.
I agree with Snow's current personality, it sucks. She acts very stupid, then she wants this, then she wants that. It's annoying. It irritates me too that Henry keeps calling Regina mom, and Emma by her first name, just call them both your mom, I don't really get why they don't do that. The same with Emma towards her parents. I know that she met them as MM and David, but why doesn't she start calling them mom and dad, it only will help strengten the bond between them.
It's so easy to point out a character's weak points and what you don't like about him/her, but it makes more sense trying to place yourself in that person's shoes. Snow White is not a bad character. She's certainly someone who has a high level of morals and standards. Think of the things/people who are important to her most for her whole life. When she was young, Snow was spoiled and ignorant about the level of haughtiness in which how she treated those lesser rank or stature than her. She believed treating them like that was correct because of her entitlement as a royal, but it was her mother who instilled in her the teachings of being respectful and kind to everyone no matter their rank. It was her mother's words that helped her to turn away from the candle even though it would have given her a chance to save her mother's life. Just because Snow is a "goody goody" doesn't make her a boring or hateful character, or at least that's how I see it because she's someone who learned from a young age to always hold kindness in her heart and following that rule all throughout her life. When Mary Margaret decided to change and turn the tables on Cora, that was a growth and conflict in her character. She was starting to lean to the other side because it was frustrating for her to have always be good and kind yet it was basicaly getting her nowhere in terms of winning/defeating those who threatened her and the lives of her family. Every character has traits that depending on perception people will find redeemable or interesting and for others flat or dull. But it's not necessary to basically kamikaze a whole character's characterization just because you don't like him/her.
As a viewer, it is also really easy to think things like, "Why didn't ___ do this? Why didn't ____ say this?" I think many viewers often forget a tv show should be watched as if the characters are real, living people who have feelings and emotions and can right or wrong decisions. So the things you see them doing or not doing is all part of the person in question. You ask why Henry doesn't directly to call Emma "mom" from the start when he first met her? I don't know how you can expect a kid who just met his birth mother to just right off the bat call her the "mom" word. As Henry said to Mr. Gold in "Manhattan", he did harbor some ill feelings about Emma having given him up, but he also explained he understood the situation better and forgave her for it. Just because Henry is a child meeting his birth mother does not make it any different than an adult adopted child meeting his or her birth parent for the first time. Do you think that person would call their birth parent "mom" or "dad" just like that? I don't think so. And as much as Henry is wrapped up in season one in thinking of Regina, his mom, as the Evil Queen, she is still his mother. She raised him. She is his legal guardian.
Same point with why Emma doesn't call MM and David "mom" and "dad" until the very end of the finale. She's spent the whole second season adjusting to her newfound family. InĀ the most earliest of episodes, like "Broken" and "We Are Both" you can obviously see she is still quite uncomfortable with the sudden change and discovery. You cannot possibly expect someone to adjust 100% to having just met her parents. And no, it's not something that can be finished and done with in three episodes and all of a sudden she starts calling them "mom" and "dad"?
In "We Are Both", what do you think Emma was crying about in the baby nursery scene? She was realizing for the first time that although it upsets her her birth parents did give her up and abandon her, they did it for good reason behind the action, and by giving their child up, Snow and Charming also had to give up their family and make sacrifices in splitting up due to the curse. Emma was getting emotional because she realized she's being put first in someone else's thoughts for once. Like any new relationship, it takes time and effort to get used to, especially for Emma. Think of Emma's character. She's spent most of her adult life shielding and hiding herself emotionally and not getting close to people. It makes perfect sense why it would take a lot more time for her to open herself up to her parents.
You make a very good point. Your statements and thoughts helped me to better understand these characters.Ā
I watched S2 rather recently and I think they killed her off WAY too early , they should have left that for the finale not Episode 16 , the rest of Season was pretty lackluster compared to when she was alive imo .